FOREIGN RELATIONS Milei doubles down on calling Brazil's Lula a 'thief' 03-08-2026 19:12 President Javier Milei renews his attacks on Brazilian counterpart Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva.
ANALYSIS Milei’s money man shuns foreign markets after failed bond binge 03-08-2026 18:27 Luis Caputo previously tapped foreign bond markets again and again, earning the moniker “serial borrower” from his critics. But nowadays, he's not selling bonds overseas.
FOREIGN RELATIONS Milei accuses Spain PM Sánchez of using immigrants to 'win votes' 03-08-2026 18:04 La Libertad Avanza leader, a fierce critic of Spanish leader, accuses Pedro Sánchez of encouraging immigration to win votes and help "perpetuate his tyranny." He presented no evidence for his claim.
CARS & AUTOMOBILES Chinese EVs are everywhere in Argentina despite Milei’s MAGA ties 03-08-2026 06:44 Brightly lit BYD dealerships are popping up nationwide as part of a broader wave of new showrooms emblazoned with names like BAIC, MG and Chery.
POLITICS & CULTURE La Libertad Avanza, PRO team up in forum against abortion, sex ed 03-08-2026 06:09 Libertarian lawmakers, City Deputy Mayor Clara Muzzio and veteran PRO politician Gabriela Michetti participate in symposium against abortion and sex education.
THE WEEK IN REVIEW Stories that caught our eye: July 25 to August 1 01-08-2026 19:31 A selection of the stories that caught our eye over the last seven days in Argentina.
BEYOND THE HEADLINES Racism as its own worst enemy 01-08-2026 19:20 No country is racist and no country is free of racism – this is not a black-and-white issue (perhaps not the best way of putting it) but numerous shades of grey. by Michael Soltys
POLITICS – ANALYSIS Total (culture) war 01-08-2026 19:17 The “culture wars” Milei is so fond of are the cornerstone of his political construction. by Agustino Fontevecchia
Prisons & Human Rights Prison watchdog flags overcrowding and detainee rights concerns 01-08-2026 14:30 Argentina’s PPN federal prison watchdog warns of overcrowding, lack of transparency and rights setbacks in annual report.
EDITORIAL Blame it on Sao Paulo 01-08-2026 12:17 It might well also be asked whether meddling in the domestic politics of other countries belongs in any presidential work list.
As I see it Education everywhere is due for an overhaul 01-08-2026 11:40 Throughout the world there are millions of people, many of whom are now middle-aged or on the verge of retirement, with university degrees of one kind or another who, to their despair, have found out that they do not guarantee them a well-paying job. by James Neilson
MILITARY & DEFENCE How pilots land aircraft at Argentina’s most challenging Antarctic airstrip 01-08-2026 10:55 Air Force pilots face one of the most demanding landings at Argentina’s Marambio Base in Antarctica, touching down on a natural runway made of permanently frozen ground and rock, while contending with extreme winds, snow and rapidly changing weather conditions.
ENERGY & GAS Oil billionaire Hamm seeks to expand in Argentina’s shale patch 01-08-2026 05:17 US shale pioneer Harold Hamm is moving to expand his footprint in Argentina’s Vaca Muerta oil basin.
BILATERAL RELATIONS Argentina and South Korea announce critical minerals partnership 01-08-2026 04:58 President Javier Milei met his South Korean counterpart, Lee Jae Myung, in Buenos Aires on Friday as the two countries sought to deepen cooperation in critical minerals, energy and trade.
ECONOMIC POLICY Milei Central Bank reform would ban financing state spending 31-07-2026 22:43 Milei’s push to fortify the Central Bank contrasts with his campaign pledges in 2023 to dollarise the economy and definitively shutter the institution he described as “the worst garbage that exists on this Earth.”
SPECIAL INVESTIGATION Criminal tourism: Inside the Chilean burglary network targeting sports stars 31-07-2026 06:40 How a gang accused of raiding Juan Martín del Potro's home fits into an international criminal network that has targeted elite athletes across the Americas and Europe. by Federico Perez Vecchio
INTERVIEW 'They don't have bosses': The detective hunting Chile's 'criminal tourists' 31-07-2026 06:40 After years tracking crews and gangs accused of targeting athletes and celebrities, Nassau County detective Jesús Bonilla explains how the crews recruit, operate and continue to expand.
SPECIAL INVESTIGATION From Tandil break-in to FBI probe – How Del Potro burglary went global 31-07-2026 06:40 Investigation into burglary at former tennis star's home has expanded into an international case involving Interpol, the FBI and a possible extradition to the United States. by Federico Perez Vecchio
EMERGENCY DECREE Milei signs decree allowing Argentina to bar or expel foreigners over 'hate speech' 30-07-2026 03:54 Milei government issues emergency decree allowing authorities to deny entry to or deport foreigners accused of inciting hatred, discrimination or violence against Argentina or for insulting national symbols.
Cristina & the courts Fernández de Kirchner takes graft conviction to UN Rights Committee 29-07-2026 18:27 Convicted ex-president takes case to UN rights body; CFK claims corruption trial was politically motivated and seeks international scrutiny of Judiciary.
INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALL FIFA to probe Argentina over World Cup final ill-discipline, Malvinas banner 29-07-2026 18:25 FIFA opens disciplinary proceedings against four Argentines and one Spaniard over incidents following World Cup final; AFA will also face probe over controversial Malvinas banner.
AIR TRAGEDY Seven killed in helicopter crash in San Juan Province 29-07-2026 18:20 Seven dead after a forest fire-fighting helicopter crashes in San Juan Province, confirms Marcelo Orrego.
FOREIGN RELATIONS Milei meets Peru's new president Fujimori during Lima inauguration 29-07-2026 13:14 The President also held a bilateral meeting with the Peruvian president-elect hours before she was sworn in during a trip seeking to consolidate the Latin American right.
ENERGY & GAS IMF chief visits Vaca Muerta shale field 29-07-2026 11:38 IMF chief Kristalina Georgieva tours Loma Campana field, operated by YPF in Neuquén, during visit to Argentina.
IN FOCUS Behind yerba mate craze, farmers bemoan Milei’s austerity 29-07-2026 11:05 Yerba mate is fast becoming the caffeine vehicle of choice for wellness-minded consumers far from its South American roots.
Dollar purchases Argentina snaps dollar-buying streak day after IMF hailed policy 29-07-2026 10:57 Monetary authority didn’t buy greenbacks in Argentina’s currency market on Tuesday for the first time since January 2.
REGOINAL TENSIONS Milei's spokesperson plays down diplomatic spat with Brazil 29-07-2026 10:54 Argentina's government admits to "ideological and political differences" with neighbouring Brazil but says they won't affect bilateral trade.
MARKETs Robeco’s US$18-billion stock picker bets on Argentina after hiatus 28-07-2026 11:17 It took nearly a decade for one of Europe’s biggest emerging-market investors to return to Argentine stocks.
Analysis IMF chief visits Milei as Argentina’s US$57-billion bill comes due 28-07-2026 04:17 Eight years, three deals and US$57 billion since the last IMF leader came to Argentina, Kristalina Georgieva arrived Monday in Buenos Aires.
argentina Border crossings shut as heavy snow coats Argentina's side of Andes 28-07-2026 04:06 Truck drivers said they had spent up to eight days stuck in one spot after over three metres of snowfall blocked roads and shuttered the Puente del Inca border crossing into Chile.
IMF LEADER VISITS IMF boss hails 'much sounder' Argentine economy under Milei 27-07-2026 18:42 International Monetary Fund director Kristalina Georgieva hails economic progress under President Javier Milei during visit to Buenos Aires.
EMPLOYMENT & JOBS Over nine million workers now informally employed in Argentina 27-07-2026 14:58 Even though unemployment levels remain almost unchanged, the wear is beginning to show in job quality. Specialists warn involvement of young women is growing, but mostly in informal employment. by María Lorena Rodríguez
BEYOND THE HEADLINES More pain or gain with Spain? 27-07-2026 05:10 If one swallow does not make a summer, one substandard final does not make a winter either, obliterating the glorious run-up with seven consecutive victories. by Michael Soltys
ENERGY & GAS Vista Energy joins Milei's RIGI investment incentive scheme 27-07-2026 05:06 Firm has pledged to plough US$5.8 billion into drilling 336 wells in over 10,000 hectares of the northern reaches of Vaca Muerta shale deposits with the aim of producing a daily 50,000 barrels of oil.
POLITICS & ECONOMY Milei outlines Central Bank reform bill aimed at monetary discipline 27-07-2026 04:49 President claims his planned overhaul would strengthen the Central Bank's independence and permanently curb inflation.
IMF LEADER IN TOWN IMF leader Georgieva to visit Milei in Buenos Aires 27-07-2026 04:31 IMF sources say Georgieva also plans to meet with Economy Minister Luis Caputo, Central Bank Governor Santiago Bausili and experts from the business world and academia.
ECONOMIC OUTLOOK Caputo boldly claims Argentina will ‘reach zero inflation’ 27-07-2026 04:12 Prediction comes after inflation fell sharply during President Milei's first two years in office.
THE WEEK IN REVIEW Stories that caught our eye: July 18 to 25 27-07-2026 04:00 A selection of stories that caught our eye over the last seven days in Argentina.
FOREIGN RELATIONS Brazil recalls ambassador after Milei attacks Lula, judge 27-07-2026 03:34 Foreign Minister Mauro Vieira summons Argentina’s ambassador to express Brazil’s “revulsion” over Milei’s actions in São Paulo.
foreign relations fallout Milei accuses Brazil, Mexico of funding 'anti-Argentina campaign' without evidence 27-07-2026 00:48 President makes wild claims in radio interview, without providing evidence; Points finger at "Brazilian government," Mexico and US Democrats.
BILATERAL RELATIONS Brazil recalls ambassador to Argentina over Milei's 'insults' 26-07-2026 14:19 Lula government recalls ambassador in Buenos Aires for talks after Milei backs Flávio Bolsonaro, attacks Brazilian leader during visit to see right-wing ally in São Paulo.
BRAZILIAN POLITICS Brazil's right-wing party nominates Bolsonaro's son to battle Lula 26-07-2026 04:46 Firebrand ex-president Jair Bolsonaro anointed his eldest son Flavio as his political heir after being sentenced to 27 years in prison; President Javier Milei travels to rally to denounce Lula, back right-winger.
LATIN AMERICA Milei tests his right-wing magic on Flavio Bolsonaro’s shaky campaign in Brazil 25-07-2026 13:05 Javier Milei is flying straight into an uproar in Brazil, seeking to help topple his arch-rival and Latin America’s most prominent leftist.
Analysis: Disinformation In defence of Argentine culture and football 25-07-2026 04:54 z by Agustino Fontevecchia
EDITORIAL A world without cup 25-07-2026 04:36 The injustice of some criticisms should not justify going to the other extreme of a fanatical nationalism insisting that there is nothing to reproach.
As I see it The return of the ugly Argentine 25-07-2026 04:34 Does the abuse being hurled against the country’s footballers by aggrieved foreigners whose national teams got knocked out early matter very much? It clearly does. by James Neilson
Analysing Argentina The ‘Scaloni moment’ Milei needs to get re-elected 25-07-2026 03:56 Scaloni’s secret formula is simple and public: professionalism, humility, respect, and results. In more than three years in office and almost 10 years in the public limelight, Milei has never cooled down a controversy; on the contrary, he has been the one creating them. by Marcelo J. García
WORLD CUP 2026 Otamendi retires from Argentina's national team after World Cup 24-07-2026 05:03 Veteran defender ends an international career spanning 17 years and 139 appearances after helping the Albiceleste win the 2022 World Cup and two Copa América titles.
STAR IN HOT WATER Rosalía's Argentine fans up in arms over alleged World Cup snub 24-07-2026 04:49 Fans try to flog their tickets for Spanish star's run of shows at Movistar Arena in Buenos Aires after musician shared social media post that was critical of Argentina's national football team.
POLITICS – ANALYSIS Cristina and Karina – the two most powerful women in Argentina 24-07-2026 00:06 The fact that Cristina Fernández de Kirchner and Karina Milei are the two most influential women in the country speaks as much to their own qualities as to the shortcomings of a country still wedded to polarisation. by Gustavo González
Protest and politics With World Cup over, anti-austerity protests resume 23-07-2026 02:19 Pensioners demanding higher payments and improved healthcare access held regular weekly demonstrations outside Congress, which were often dispersed by police.
FOOTBALL & POLITICS AFA says US authorities did not detain Claudio ‘Chiqui’ Tapia 23-07-2026 02:14 AFA denies reports Tapia was questioned by FBI in US; Football association says reports its president and senior officials were detained or summoned by US authorities are "absolutely false."
death of diego maradona Tearful fights, edible offerings – a glimpse into Diego Maradona death trial 23-07-2026 02:03 A look at the standout moments of an often dramatic case; Defendants, who insist Maradona died of natural causes, have spent months in a courtroom alongside the footballer's distraught daughters.
economic indicators Economy shrank again in May amid uneven recovery 22-07-2026 18:18 Argentina’s economy contracted for a second straight month in May; Economic activity fell 0.5% in May from previous month, reports INDEC.
WORLD CUP 2026 Enzo: Argentina represented themselves in 'best possible way' 22-07-2026 18:10 Chelsea midfielder takes to Instagram to defend his country for their World Cup performance.
FOOTBALL IN ARGENTINA 'Dibu' Martínez hints at Argentina retirement after World Cup final defeat 22-07-2026 13:22 Goalkeeper says he will reflect on his international future after defeat to Spain, asking whether it is time to "step aside."
ANALYSIS Bad loans threaten Argentina’s next engine of economic growth 22-07-2026 13:13 Government was counting on a revival in consumer credit to help broaden an export-led recovery through stronger household spending,
RATINGS AGENCY\ Moody’s lifts Argentina debt rating in fresh boost to Milei 22-07-2026 12:30 All three major credit-rating firms now rate the country above the highly distressed category; Milei administration targeting investment-grade status by 2031.
INTERVIEW ARA San Juan culpability trial: Plaintiff lawyer says sentences are ‘offensive’ 21-07-2026 09:42 In an exclusive interview with the Noticias Argentinas news agency, plaintiff lawyer Valeria Carreras says the verdict will be appealed and that the sentence was “a slap in the face.”
WORLD CUP 2026 Selección given warm welcome home as thousands line streets in thanks 21-07-2026 07:05 Thousands of fans brave cold and rain to give a rapturous welcome to Argentina's World Cup squad.
WORLD CUP 2026 Arrogance or pride? Argentina grapples with World Cup villain label 21-07-2026 06:58 Critics may have blasted the Albiceleste for dirty tactics and poor sportsmanship, but Argentines argue they are just passionate and misunderstood.
WORLD CUP 2026 Selección set for Messi-less low-key homecoming 20-07-2026 16:28 Argentina's return home was expected to be subdued Monday, with local media reporting that some players, including Messi, would not be returning to Argentina.
WORLD CUP 2026 'The pain is immense' – Messi's message after World Cup final defeat 20-07-2026 16:20 Messi came within one match of leading Argentina to a second consecutive World Cup title.
economy Milei opens door to electric cars as Musk's Tesla firms up arrival plans 20-07-2026 14:10 Argentina’s car market is undergoing a silent but fast-moving revolution. While the world's most eccentric mobility brand, Elon Musk’s Telsa, prepares for its arrival in the national market, the landscape has already been transformed by new Asian giants. by Eugenia Muzio
WORLD CUP 2026 What's next for the Albiceleste after World Cup final defeat? 20-07-2026 09:29 Argentina fell agonisingly short of winning a second consecutive World Cup title. As the team reaches the end of an era, speculation begins over what comes next.
WORLD CUP 2026 'The last of Messi': Argentines mourn final loss and end of an era 19-07-2026 23:13 The nation's hope of yet another epic comeback led by Lionel Messi in the World Cup fizzled out against Spain.
WORLD CUP 2026 Argentines flood onto streets to salute team despite World Cup final defeat 19-07-2026 23:01 Fans across the country applaud the Albiceleste after the World Cup final loss to Spain, as tributes pour in for Lionel Messi and Lionel Scaloni.
WORLD CUP 2026 Domestic press laments Albiceleste defeat, hails end of an era 19-07-2026 22:35 Press reflects on Messi's emotional farewell and an uncertain future; Headlines focus on tears, farewell fears and the end of an era.
WORLD CUP 2026 Messi denied dream farewell as Argentina disappoint in World Cup final 19-07-2026 20:23 Skipper's dream of lifting the trophy again, four years after he inspired Argentina to victory in Qatar, ultimately proved too good to be true.
WORLD CUP 2026 Spain shatters Argentina's dream with 1-0 win in World Cup final 19-07-2026 20:19 Disappointment for Argentina and skipper Lionel Messi in World Cup final; Barcelona striker Ferran Torres lashes home a thumping finish in the 106th minute to reward a dominant display and win Spain the World Cup.
WORLD CUP 2026 Lionel Scaloni on final defeat: Spain deserved to win World Cup 19-07-2026 20:11 Argentina coach casts doubt over his future after World Cup final loss, says his team must accept defeat with the same grace they showed when celebrating recent successes.
WORLD CUP 2026 Messi on eve of final: Argentina has already written history 'no-one can erase' 19-07-2026 09:32 Argentina captain says the team's greatest achievement has been the journey rather than the trophies as he delivers an emotional message to fans before Sunday's World Cup final.
WORLD CUP 2026 From Maradona to Messi: Bangladesh's enduring love for Argentina 19-07-2026 09:04 The craze for Argentina has endured for decades in Bangladesh, a country of 170 million people who have never qualified for the World Cup.
FOOTBALL & POLITICS From hotel bedsheet to World Cup pitch: the story of Argentina’s Malvinas flag 19-07-2026 00:07 Daubed with ink on a hotel bedsheet, the Malvinas banner became one of the symbols of Argentina's dramatic World Cup win over England. Its creator, who spoke exclusively to Perfil and asked to remain anonymous, explained how the flag came about, why the squad won't give it back and why he'll be at Sunday's final. by Regina Giannasi
WORLD CUP 2026 Latin America's unlikely football unity: cheering against Argentina 18-07-2026 09:44 While Latin Americans have traditionally rallied behind football teams from the region who advance deep into the World Cup tournament, a flood of memes, jokes and criticism has made it clear there is one exception: Argentina.
WORLD CUP 2026 World Cup heroics move me to tears, says goalkeeper Martínez 18-07-2026 08:44 Argentina keeper says he is enjoying this World Cup campaign much more than in 2022, despite coming into the tournament injured.
WORLD CUP 2026 Spain, Argentina prepare for World Cup final, Trump hails success 18-07-2026 08:35 Lionel coach Scaloni hails "legend" Messi before World Cup final.
Editorial The days after 18-07-2026 07:30 Parliamentary democracy is far from being a synonym for productivity. Yet all that and more lies after the challenge of tomorrow’s World Cup final.
AS I SEE IT Consumer prices trump geopolitics 18-07-2026 07:26 Like its counterparts in most other countries, the US electorate is more interested in consumer goods than in geopolitical questions that, sooner or later, could have devastating consequences. by James Neilson
BEYOND THE HEADLINES Finally Finalissima 18-07-2026 07:21 Not even the full fury of Middle East conflict could avert the Finalissima between Argentina and Spain… by Michael Soltys
Politics – Analysis Hiding behind the World Cup, Milei siblings restructure their government 18-07-2026 06:50 The World Cup provided the Milei administration a much-needed breather after three months under siege. Javier and Karina Milei are learning by doing, but by doing so they are slowly but surely resembling what they initially promised to battle. by Agustino Fontevecchia
CHAINSAW AUSTERITY Milei almost halved education and science spending, reports finds 17-07-2026 23:44 University of Buenos Aires researchers say education investment has almost halved in two years since President Javier Milei took office, while second Grupo EPC analysis says funding for science has fallen by more than 46%. by Ezequiel Orlando
BONDS & MARKETS Neuquén Province to pitch first US bond since 2017 17-07-2026 20:08 Neuquén province will pitch foreign investors in New York on its first new international bond in nearly a decade as the local government reaps the rewards of a shale oil boom.
BUSINESS & INVESTMENT Pampa approves US$2.7-billion Argentina urea plant amid shale boom 17-07-2026 20:04 First new facility of this kind in almost quarter century; Plant to be built over three years in Argentina’s petrochemicals hub in Bahía Blanca
THE WEEK IN REVIEW Stories that caught our eye: July 10 to 17 17-07-2026 17:44 A selection of stories that caught our eye over the last seven days in Argentina.
WORLD CUP 2026 Messi eyes glorious farewell as Spain, Argentina clash in World Cup final 17-07-2026 13:55 Holders Argentina are bidding to become the first team in 64 years to successfully defend the title, in what likely to be the final World Cup match of captain Lionel Messi's career.
WORLD CUP 2026 Hasta el final: What propels Argentina's comeback kings 17-07-2026 12:22 A string of dramatic comebacks and extra-time victories fuels confidence that the Albiceleste will fight until the very end – and succeed.
Foreign relations Rubio: US wants to globalise fight against far-left 'terrorism' 17-07-2026 11:11 Argentina among nations represented at meeting on "The Resurgence of Political Terrorism" hosted by US Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
MERCOSUR TRADE TALKS Canada hopes to sign Mercosur free-trade deal this year 17-07-2026 08:25 Canada and the Mercosur bloc, made up of Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay, resumed negotiations last year.
ECONOMY & ENVIRONMENT ‘Our bodies contain poison’: Landmark trial probes dangers of agrochemicals 17-07-2026 07:55 Trial over agrochemical spraying in the city of Pergamino has set an unprecedented legal benchmark: for the first time, a federal court placed the entire agricultural production chain in the dock, from farmers and agronomists to public officials. Trial ends in acquittal for nearly all those excused, except two municipal employees. by Adriana Vanoli
WORLD CUP 2026 'Works every time': Superstition ramps up ahead of World Cup final 16-07-2026 19:10 Football fans are putting their faith in good luck rituals ahead of Sunday's World Cup final. But these wacky habits are no joke to those who practice them.
POLITICS & CONGRESS Debate on ruling party’s land ownership bill pushed back after spat 16-07-2026 18:27 Milei government fails to gather votes, postpones upper house debate over land ownership reform bill; Fourth delay for controversial bill that would eliminate restrictions on the foreign purchase of rural land; Comes after spat between Vice-President Villarruel and La Libertad Avanza Senate chief Patricia Bullrich.
WORLD CUP 2026: FINAL King Messi faces Prince Yamal in final with World Cup at stake 16-07-2026 17:14 Almost 20 years on from the famous photo that Argentina’s skipper took with football’s newest star when Lamine Yamal was just a baby, the two will go head-to-head with the World Cup trophy at stake.
COMMUNITY ‘Suiza Pop’ cultural festival returns to Buenos Aires 16-07-2026 16:20 Swiss innovation meets Argentine audiences as 'Suiza Pop' festival returns for second edition.
WORLD CUP 2026: THE FINAL Master and apprentice as Spain, Argentina coaches meet in World Cup final 16-07-2026 15:39 Nine years ago, Argentina's coach was just another former professional player pursuing a career in coaching, studying for his pro-licence on the outskirts of Madrid. His teacher on the course? Luis de la Fuente.
FOOTBALL & POLITICS Milei says won't attend World Cup final out of superstition 16-07-2026 15:29 British calls on FIFA to investigate after Argentina's players held up a banner reading "Las Malvinas son Argentinas" after their victory over England.
COMMUNITY Memorial unveiled for Romanian diplomat who saved Jews from Nazis 16-07-2026 14:49 Florin Manoliu smuggled hundreds of protective passports past Nazi guards and helped expose Auschwitz's horrors to the Allied press; British Cemetery in Buenos Aires honours Romainian diplomat who found refuge in Bahía Blanca with new monument. by John Hunter
FOREIGN RELATIONS Milei planning trips to Brazil, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia – and UK? 16-07-2026 14:11 Argentina’s leader is preparing for a fresh round of regional diplomacy, including a visit to see former Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro, a trip to Peru for the inauguration of Keiko Fujimori, and bilateral meetings with Ecuador's Daniel Noboa and Colombia's president-elect Abelardo de la Espriella. Oh, and then there’s the issue of a trip to London… by Pablo Varela
BUSINESS & INVESTMENT Tether invests US$20 million in Argentina’s Ualá, expanding Latin America push 16-07-2026 10:32 Tether, issuer of the world’s largest stablecoin, invests US$20 million in Argentine digital bank Ualá.
Sovereignty dispute UK urges FIFA to investigate Argentina’s Malvinas banner 16-07-2026 10:24 Argentina players celebrated victory with banner reading: “Las Malvinas son Argentinas”; Outgoing UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer says FIFA should investigate but believes potential action is a matter for them.